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(This posting is being re-posted by unpopular demand.)
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< EACH SPECK OF LIGHT IS A GALAXY
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http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/the-hubble-ultra-dee.html
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< WHAT DO EXTRATERRESTRIALS WANT FROM US?
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< First,An Editorial by Ed Conrad)
< (The Response from an extraterrestrial below)
<
Well, for sure, they wouldn't want our paper money. Too damn
contaminated, for one thing, transporting bacteria -- and germs --
around faster than the Indy 500.)
<
How about our man- (and woman-) power to becomes obedient slaves and
perform their manual labor, on earth and elsewhere?
<
Hmmm! Not really! Not when they know, at best, we operate at only
about 55-65 percent efficiency (except in those U.S.-outsourced whip-
lashing factories overseas which pay
peanuts after ripping the heart out of Uncle Sam's industrial might.)
<
Well, how about our tremendous advancement in knowledge? Ridiculous!
WHAT knowledge, compared to theirs?
<
Okay, well, how about our gorgeous planet, with its fresh air, clean
water, spacious skies and mountains majesty?
<
I'd hardly think so, not with our wildebeest stampede of pollution,
hazardous waste and toxic chemicals (although, perhaps, it would've
been an affirmative answer if we asked that same question 200 years
ago).
<
Could it be the visitors from outer space savor an education, desiring
to learn how we've made astounding progress in good will toward our
fellow man?
<
Sorry, Charlie! Another negative, with wars and battles and never-
ending hate-mongering somewhere around the globe
almost all the time. And, just as bad, the extraterrestrials certainly
must've noticed that most of us can't even get along with our
neighbors. (Accidentally scratch their new car and it's almost like
starting World War III.)
<
I know! How about our democratic form of government, the concept that
all people are treated equal (wherever Democracy reigns)?
<
Hmmm! That's got to be a strikeout, too. The extraterrestrials must
have noticed that our worst tyrant/criminals (usually holding high
elective office) get away with a slap on their wrist.
<
Meanwhile, the most dynamic changes in the legal system -- recent
passage of U.S. health reform and now revocation of the insane tax
break for the filthy rich -- usually are rejected by corrupt, deep-
pocket whore-master politicians in order to continue to benefit those
filthy rich, to make them -- AND the disgusting politicians -- filthy
rich
r, and with absolutely no concern for the hardship their infernal
greed causes for the common man.
<
To be perfectly honest, after our visitors from outer space get a
really good idea of who we are and what we're really all about, it's
rather obvious why they definitely would want NO part of us (not even
as a meal, since we undoubtedly would make them puke).
<
In fact, when Captain Zinkag 41 shakes his head in disgust and finally
announces, "OK, Xisbar 37, Turn the ship around because we're heading
home," the entire crew will breathe a collective sigh of relief and
give a rousing cheer.
<
========================================
<
< AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESPONDS
<
========================================
<
Let me make it perfectly clear that I did not write what follows. And
anyone with half a brain knows that the message is so eloquent
-- SO incredibly RIGHT ON TARGET -- that
not even a tenured college English professor or a longtime Hollywood
playwright could've written it. Besides, they wouldn't have the
balls.
It was simply a response to my first posting
and, after considerable research, it appears that the writer hadn't
posted anything before or since. It certainly makes you wonder.
< -- Ed Conrad
<
===============================
<
Zinkag 41 (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64) has
written:
<
There WAS a possibility that humans could contribute to civilizing the
universe but they have proven to be violent and shortsighted
for that.
<
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
<
I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
<
Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say. As you know, lengthy programs
of detailed observation were undertaken several hundred years ago.
<
Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers,
as a self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable
global conflagration or religious conflict.
<
As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
<
In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or later.
<
The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-stellar spaceflight capabilities. In that event,
the chances of these Earthers destroying themselves completely is
appreciably diminished with each successful colony.
<
The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they get out there -- by
which time it would be too late for peaceful solutions.
<
In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the US space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance, leading to non-trivial
solar-system expansion.
<
Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have
developed geopolitical talent sufficient to this minimal task.
<
Barring accident, in fifty years the Earthers could be pushing their
first generation ships out in the cometary halo or beyond.
<
Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers ing their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
<
In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding.
<
Perhaps they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed their
native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in principle,
of interface.
<
Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly if they
retain their delusional belief systems.
<
I suppose the question of change must be revisited. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality
of their reasoning?
<
We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it. I think the answer is a qualified "yes", but I am in
no way prepared to say whether they are capable of changing
enough within the time remaining.
<
Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
<
Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle
these issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly
everything non-epsilon with respect to their vector as of now.
<
On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors.
<
This inefficiency allows nearly unconstrained growth in established
fields of science and technology which are useful to the political
economy but only influences fundamental change as a function of its
unpredictability in
deployment.
<
I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise -- or could arise. The concept
is several big jumps from the orthodoxy in any of their religions.
<
In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss what we are
going to do about it if we cannot interfere directly.
<
Sincerely,
<
Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64
<
=============================
<
< AN EXAMPLE OF EARTHERS GONE MAD
<
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EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Niels+Harrit&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
<
http://cipshare.com/NielsHarrit_org/
<
IT'S A BIRD! IT'S A PLANE! NO, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.slack/msg/b634360005d6ef0e
<
HISTORY CHANNEL, HIDE YOUR HEAD IN SHAME
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/2709bef36ee313ff
<
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.education/msg/0d3732dd07990805
<
CLOGGED TOILET YIELDS PROOF OF YELLOWISH JOURNALISM AT FOX NEWS
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.keith-olbermann/msg/02b7d6d3a930ba5a
<
THE 911 CONSPIRACY
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/911/staged.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+CONSPIRACY&hl=en&emb=0#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
<
==============================
<
THE EXISTENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS
http://www.billymeier.com/
http://www.theyfly.com/
<
They Fly is the official site of Michael Horn, Billy Meier's
authorized American media representative and features Meier's UFO
photos, films, videos.
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch.htm
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch2.htm
<
=============================
<
< EARTHERS CAN'T SEPARATE FACT FROM FICTION
<
THE JFK ASSASSINATION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5770984395481454022&q=jfk+as#K
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
http://www.edconrad.com
<
PROOF OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
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http://edconrad.org
<
THE CORRUPT GOSPELS
http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/
<
THE FIRST MAN ON THE MOON
<
THE CANCER CURE COVER-UP
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/90e82dea4a938b35
<
========================
<
THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE
<
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911 RINGLEADERS AS THEY'LL LOOK IN 2020
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(This posting is being re-posted by unpopular demand.)
<
< =========================
<
< EACH SPECK OF LIGHT IS A GALAXY
<
Loading Image...
<
http://boingboing.net/2009/08/13/the-hubble-ultra-dee.html
<
=================================
<
< WHAT DO EXTRATERRESTRIALS WANT FROM US?
<
< First,An Editorial by Ed Conrad)
< (The Response from an extraterrestrial below)
<
Well, for sure, they wouldn't want our paper money. Too damn
contaminated, for one thing, transporting bacteria -- and germs --
around faster than the Indy 500.)
<
How about our man- (and woman-) power to becomes obedient slaves and
perform their manual labor, on earth and elsewhere?
<
Hmmm! Not really! Not when they know, at best, we operate at only
about 55-65 percent efficiency (except in those U.S.-outsourced whip-
lashing factories overseas which pay
peanuts after ripping the heart out of Uncle Sam's industrial might.)
<
Well, how about our tremendous advancement in knowledge? Ridiculous!
WHAT knowledge, compared to theirs?
<
Okay, well, how about our gorgeous planet, with its fresh air, clean
water, spacious skies and mountains majesty?
<
I'd hardly think so, not with our wildebeest stampede of pollution,
hazardous waste and toxic chemicals (although, perhaps, it would've
been an affirmative answer if we asked that same question 200 years
ago).
<
Could it be the visitors from outer space savor an education, desiring
to learn how we've made astounding progress in good will toward our
fellow man?
<
Sorry, Charlie! Another negative, with wars and battles and never-
ending hate-mongering somewhere around the globe
almost all the time. And, just as bad, the extraterrestrials certainly
must've noticed that most of us can't even get along with our
neighbors. (Accidentally scratch their new car and it's almost like
starting World War III.)
<
I know! How about our democratic form of government, the concept that
all people are treated equal (wherever Democracy reigns)?
<
Hmmm! That's got to be a strikeout, too. The extraterrestrials must
have noticed that our worst tyrant/criminals (usually holding high
elective office) get away with a slap on their wrist.
<
Meanwhile, the most dynamic changes in the legal system -- recent
passage of U.S. health reform and now revocation of the insane tax
break for the filthy rich -- usually are rejected by corrupt, deep-
pocket whore-master politicians in order to continue to benefit those
filthy rich, to make them -- AND the disgusting politicians -- filthy
rich
r, and with absolutely no concern for the hardship their infernal
greed causes for the common man.
<
To be perfectly honest, after our visitors from outer space get a
really good idea of who we are and what we're really all about, it's
rather obvious why they definitely would want NO part of us (not even
as a meal, since we undoubtedly would make them puke).
<
In fact, when Captain Zinkag 41 shakes his head in disgust and finally
announces, "OK, Xisbar 37, Turn the ship around because we're heading
home," the entire crew will breathe a collective sigh of relief and
give a rousing cheer.
<
========================================
<
< AN EXTRATERRESTRIAL RESPONDS
<
========================================
<
Let me make it perfectly clear that I did not write what follows. And
anyone with half a brain knows that the message is so eloquent
-- SO incredibly RIGHT ON TARGET -- that
not even a tenured college English professor or a longtime Hollywood
playwright could've written it. Besides, they wouldn't have the
balls.
It was simply a response to my first posting
and, after considerable research, it appears that the writer hadn't
posted anything before or since. It certainly makes you wonder.
< -- Ed Conrad
<
===============================
<
Zinkag 41 (Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64) has
written:
<
There WAS a possibility that humans could contribute to civilizing the
universe but they have proven to be violent and shortsighted
for that.
<
Instead they will be left alone until they kill themselves off.
<
I speak only for the crew of my ship and necessarily in an unofficial
capacity, and as such the statements below should not be taken as
authoritative or their opinions being representative of official
policy.
<
Historically, the policy towards Earthers within the galactic milieu
has been largely as you say. As you know, lengthy programs
of detailed observation were undertaken several hundred years ago.
<
Nearly every academic extrapolated from the various terrestrial techno-
culture studies from that effort has concluded that Earthers,
as a self-organized species, would end poorly in some inevitable
global conflagration or religious conflict.
<
As we know, it has happened before and will happen again countless
times among species whose biology fails to support reasoned thinking
with sufficient quality and rigor. Earthers have been shown to have
insufficient capacity within their brains for rational policy.
<
In the unforgiving universe, they will pay the price sooner or later.
<
The caveat in all this comes from the possibility that these Earthers
might achieve inter-stellar spaceflight capabilities. In that event,
the chances of these Earthers destroying themselves completely is
appreciably diminished with each successful colony.
<
The local stellar group is unoccupied and is rich in raw materials,
and is therefore ripe for exploitation, if they get out there -- by
which time it would be too late for peaceful solutions.
<
In the nineteen eighties it was clear that the US space program was
moribund with politics; so far, so good. But thirty years later we are
threatened with civilian access to LEO (low earth orbit), which in
some scenarios explodes into Space Renaissance, leading to non-trivial
solar-system expansion.
<
Furthermore, Earthers have somehow muddled through many major crises
without a large incident and may in fact have
developed geopolitical talent sufficient to this minimal task.
<
Barring accident, in fifty years the Earthers could be pushing their
first generation ships out in the cometary halo or beyond.
<
Of course they could still have a big nuclear accident but I am
beginning to think this is not assured, and hence becomes a matter of
some concern. What will we do if the Earthers ing their cultures of
insanity and violence to our space?
<
In their current "form" they cannot even begin to communicate
meaningfully with our delegates, translators notwithstanding.
<
Perhaps they will develop artificial intelligences that exceed their
native capacities and which would therefore be capable, in principle,
of interface.
<
Even in that case the problem shifts position only slightly if they
retain their delusional belief systems.
<
I suppose the question of change must be revisited. Can these Earthers
make changes to their biology and improve the quality
of their reasoning?
<
We'll ignore the issue of terrestrial politics for the moment and
simply consider whether their current level of technological progress
would allow it. I think the answer is a qualified "yes", but I am in
no way prepared to say whether they are capable of changing
enough within the time remaining.
<
Rather than wait for the actual specialists to weigh in, I would still
like to consider what this means.
<
Their major obstacles are political and sociological. The politics
driving their general socio-economic systems is unable to handle
these issues properly; the entrenched conservatism rejects nearly
everything non-epsilon with respect to their vector as of now.
<
On the side of sociology, the majority of Earther individuals are
peasant-level, therefore capable of contributing little more than the
work from their physical labors.
<
This inefficiency allows nearly unconstrained growth in established
fields of science and technology which are useful to the political
economy but only influences fundamental change as a function of its
unpredictability in
deployment.
<
I can't even begin to guess where an impetus to improve their
biological thinking basis would arise -- or could arise. The concept
is several big jumps from the orthodoxy in any of their religions.
<
In this light I suggest that the threat of Earther off-planet
expansion is imminent and that we should begin to discuss what we are
going to do about it if we cannot interfere directly.
<
Sincerely,
<
Autonomus Unit Zinkag 41, brood assemblage Delta 64
<
=============================
<
< AN EXAMPLE OF EARTHERS GONE MAD
<
Loading Image...
<
EXPLOSIVES FOUND IN WTC DUST
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=Niels+Harrit&hl=en&emb=0&aq=f#
<
http://cipshare.com/NielsHarrit_org/
<
IT'S A BIRD! IT'S A PLANE! NO, IT'S A CONSPIRACY!
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.slack/msg/b634360005d6ef0e
<
HISTORY CHANNEL, HIDE YOUR HEAD IN SHAME
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/2709bef36ee313ff
<
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.education/msg/0d3732dd07990805
<
CLOGGED TOILET YIELDS PROOF OF YELLOWISH JOURNALISM AT FOX NEWS
<
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.tv.keith-olbermann/msg/02b7d6d3a930ba5a
<
THE 911 CONSPIRACY
http://www.911foreknowledge.com/bravenewworld.htm
http://www.thewebfairy.com/911/911/staged.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3719259008768610598#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?q=911+CONSPIRACY&hl=en&emb=0#
http://video.google.com/videosearch?
<
==============================
<
THE EXISTENCE OF EXTRATERRESTRIALS
http://www.billymeier.com/
http://www.theyfly.com/
<
They Fly is the official site of Michael Horn, Billy Meier's
authorized American media representative and features Meier's UFO
photos, films, videos.
<
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Billy_Meier
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch.htm
http://www.deepspace4.com/pages/prophecy/henoch/henoch2.htm
<
=============================
<
< EARTHERS CAN'T SEPARATE FACT FROM FICTION
<
THE JFK ASSASSINATION
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5770984395481454022&q=jfk+as#K
<
MAN AS OLD AS COAL
http://www.edconrad.com
<
PROOF OF LIFE AFTER DEATH
Loading Image...
http://edconrad.org
<
THE CORRUPT GOSPELS
http://www.avilabooks.com/Jmmanuel.htm
http://www.tjresearch.info/
<
THE FIRST MAN ON THE MOON
<
THE CANCER CURE COVER-UP
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.fan.ed-conrad/msg/90e82dea4a938b35
<
========================
<
THY KINGDOM COME, THY WILL BE DONE
<
Loading Image...
<
Loading Image...
<
911 RINGLEADERS AS THEY'LL LOOK IN 2020
<
Loading Image...
